Computers OverClocked

**Dakar** · Member Joined: Jul 09 2004 Posts: 5

Hi! I'm new to this site, and I would like to ask a few questions about overclocking:

1. What exacly does ASrocks hybrid booster do? I've tried overclocking, but it does not have any options for raising voltage or lowering multipliers.

2. My computer's CPU is always at 127 degrees Celcius, even before I try to do anything. Also, if I go over 210 FSB, the computer won't start up. My computer is as follows:

2.8 Ghz Northwood 800 FSB (overclocked to 2.9, but won't go any higher)
ASrock P4VT8 motherboard
512 MD DDR 400 RAM
80 GB Maxtor 7200 RPM
400 Watt linkworld case

Can somebody help me?

Thanks,
~Dakar

EDIT: Apparently, graphical applications refuse to run at 2.9. The computer is back to 2.8.

**Adam** · Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:45 pm

Welcome!

Where are you checking your temps from? What options does your motherboard have for overclocking?

**Guest** · Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:10 pm

Reread your temp...if your CPU was running 120+ degrees celcius...your processor is a puddle of metal. ASRock hybrid booster just lightly cranks your system bus speeds (namely the frontside and PCI bus) to a few MHz more than usualy for some performance gains.

**Guest** · Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:12 pm

and I've had similar quarks with motherboard not allowing past that 420 frontside (840 in your case since it's 210 x 4 for the P4). I'm honestly not sure why it stalls doing that and I've been researching pretty heavily into it. I'll let you know when I find something useful.

**Dakar** · Member Joined: Jul 09 2004 Posts: 5

**Adam** · Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 6:35 pm

Check the temps in the BIOS.

**Dakar** · Member Joined: Jul 09 2004 Posts: 5

The BIOS shows that the CPU is 46-47 degrees celcius, which seems much more reasonable.

**Guest** · Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:58 pm

That is correct...FYI ASRock is the neutered version of a ASUS board...I beleive they are the ones that owned by asus...maybe that's a diff company...but still...ASRock is a cheaper brand and you usually get what you pay for in terms of features, ecspecially in the overclocking genre.

If you notice the BIOS isn't THAT configurable. I worked on a few ASRock boards for the AMD-end and it's a good board for normal end user functionality, but definately not something for the overclocker really. I would recommend if you got the $100-125 layin around...you can go out and get a good Abit/Albatron/Gigabyte board with the features you are looking for.

**Guest** · Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:06 pm

Is that temp for the overclocked 2900 mhz? If so I can tell you what your problem is....going much higher is hitting the temp ceiling often mentioned as a problem:

47* C = 117ish* F
* = Degrees if you're clueless why I'm putting this.

Most likely that temp is running idle or minimal processing....jump it up 10-15*F in a gaming environment as a realistic estimate...now you're talking 130's....about 55* C. Therefore, pushing the speeds higher, you and increasing even the base CPU temp into the 120-130s...and the board knows it's just going to auto-shutdown the CPU for being pushed way past it's temp capabilities.

Easiest solution to this problem is of course a new heatsink/cooling system onto the CPU. A lot of people say The P4 Spark is good...but I've had very VERY bad experience...one guy mentioned he threw a Thermalright SP97 (or SP94...whatever the designation for the P4 model)...throw a decent 92mm fan on it and you're a force to be reckoned with. I know this is also a $50+ answer to the problem, but these are some of the top of the line options. Zalman kits are a little bit cheaper and do a very good job as well, if you're looking for $10-20 less than the thermalright solution.

Hope this info helps.

**Dakar** · Member Joined: Jul 09 2004 Posts: 5

Actually, the temperatures where when the computer was at both 2.8 and 2.9 ghz.

By The Way, Graphic intensive programs no longer work. I think I messed up my computer. Thanks anyway.

(Out of sheer curiosity, I only set it up to 210, and then set it back down to 200. Are effects always so dramatic?)

**Dexter** · Member Joined: Apr 15 2004 Posts: 134 Location: Florida

Well that 210 x 4 on a pentium 4...so you're talking 40 mhz not just 10 for your frontside. If you fried something graphically intensive end...you most likely played with voltages too? If so, shame on you! Got to be very careful on voltage increments...

Hope anything fried is a cheap end component.

**Dakar** · Member Joined: Jul 09 2004 Posts: 5

**Adam** · Post subject: Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 5:06 pm

How did you end up frying it? 40MHz increase alone shouldn't fry it.

**Zigfried** · Guest

Hi, this is my frist post here Smile

I have a P4 2.8E 800Mhz FSB, 2x512MB RAM 3200,
HD 120GB SATA, FX5600 128MB MSI, MOB ASUS P4P800 DELUXE.
Was reading about overclock and saw that should raise the FSB and low multipliers.
My question is if u change from 20x100 to 10x200 i will keep the same speed but will work better couse have more FSB. So to make an overclock i should low multiplier in 2 and slowly incrise only the FSB.
Couse i can rise the clock rising both, only multiplier or only FSB. What is the best way?
Thanx

**Dexter** · Member Joined: Apr 15 2004 Posts: 134 Location: Florida

Well you'll soon find out there's a limit your motherboard will allow on the frontside til it just kinda gives you beeps says in general "Screw you, I don't feel like operating at this high of a mhz". Overclocking in my books is an art as much as a science and you have to get the right mix between the two numbers, therefore both numbers are crucial in the adjustment to get better speed.

Yes you are correct with 10 x 200 is faster than 20 x 100, but that's because it allows the other components to send their bus xfers faster to the CPU. However, too high of bus speeds causes heat on the motherboard and stress to the motherboard...it's not always the CPU you stress out in overclocking so keep that in mind.